Opera Mail Not Automatically Mark as Read

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I call back the current scheme of marking mail 'read" only manually goes hand in glove with viewing only unread mail. That manner marking Read also removes the mail from the view, and so it but should be done manually.

Merely this is forcing a new paradigm on a medium that many have already prepare their ways on. I am used to having a unified Inbox, and having post marked Read automatically later on a few seconds of viewing. The mail stays in the inbox for further attention subsequently on. This is a handy state for mail I want to continue in view, simply in the background. Or the mail can be moved by a separate action.

Unless I'm missing something, there is no manner to indistinguishable this behavior in the new mail service customer. The mails won't car-mark read, and in that location is no unified inbox. If I use the Unread view, Read mail disappears. If I used the Received view, all mail is in that location and there is no way to continue certain older mails prominent, except maybe labels, which is bothersome.

Are there plans for marker mail read automatically, and for a unified inbox?

@paul1149 There are 2 states, clicked and read. As before long as y'all click on a new bulletin, it's marked equally seen, but not as read. I think this is helpful. Only when you mark it as read does it disappear from the unread view, just you lot can keep it in there to bargain with it later on besides. And unread mail is besides visible in all messages (if yous set information technology), which is the unified inbox. I don't understand what you are missing. I don't use labels either at the moment, but I think flags are helpful to go on collections of threads and messages handy for some fourth dimension. Every mail client is different of form, only we got a wide variety of options here, including 1 key shortcuts to brand treatment mail fast and painless.

@luetage I've been confused over what utility the "unseen" parameter might have. When I saw this:

I concluded that enabling it would impose manual marking of e-mail as 'read'. But unchecking it did not change that. Basically, I don't find the description helpful at all.

Peradventure then, Unseen could function as a replacement for the classic "read". But currently the bold font is keyed to unread, not to unseen, letters, so the visual confirmation is not there.

As well, to be useful to me, there would have to exist a unified Inbox proper. Just having mail service in a seen+unread land, buried nether days or weeks of subsequent mail in the unread or received folders, is non going to assist me be organized.

It's possible I'm missing something here. I promise so. As much as I have predictable the mailer, and every bit much as I am encouraged by its potential, this will be a deal breaker unless I can see my style through information technology somehow.

May I also add that I don't get the nag dialog when merely trying to Delete a mail service? Ungraceful though it be, it suspiciously does non look similar a bug.

@saudiqbal Cheers, I missed that. I did do a search on 'marker read' in this forum merely information technology came upward empty.

@paul1149 Count unseen messages controls the counter on the panel. When checked just unread mail service will exist counted on the panel icon, when unchecked unseen messages are existence counted too. Additionally unread messages have a dot in highlight colour added to them, while unseen messages are bold. That's the visual clue correct there.

@luetage I besides can't figure out why at that place is an choice to count/not count unseen messages just not unread letters. I call up the effect here is that unseen corresponds to a concept that users are familiar with while unread corresponds to a new type of workflow, but the option in the post settings is near turning on/off the familiar workflow, non the unfamiliar one, which makes no sense at all.

Not to mention that "read" seems to indistinguishable the "archive" functionality on some mail servers but is implemented in a dissimilar way, which may make information technology useless/more piece of work for some users and led to this feature request.

@luetage,
I'm having bug with your statement, on several counts. First, I think your logic here is astern:

Count unseen letters controls the counter on the panel. When checked only unread mail will be counted on the panel icon, when unchecked unseen messages are being counted also.

Rather, when Count Unseen is united nationschecked the count is not shown; when checked it is. Correct?

Additionally unread messages have a dot in highlight colour added to them, while unseen letters are assuming. That'south the visual clue right there.

The dot is there for both Unseen and Unread. The merely divergence between those two states is Unseen has a lavender caste to the font. Both are bold, both accept the dot. And then yes, there is a visual clue, information technology is a subtle color tone.

However, none of this approaches the simplicity and ability of having a unitary Inbox and separate Read and Delete/Move functionality. That'south been a tried and tested scheme for decades now, and should exist toyed with only with caution, IMV. Or at least whatsoever meaning deviation should be optional.

Just me speaking, and mayhap I'll change my listen over time, but with respect, I recollect the mail service customer is too wonky and complicated for my apply.

@valiowk said in Mark 'Read' automatically?:

I recollect the consequence here is that unseen corresponds to a concept that users are familiar with while unread corresponds to a new blazon of workflow, but the option in the mail settings is almost turning on/off the familiar workflow, not the unfamiliar one, which makes no sense at all

I think i agree. This thread, + other Mail threads, are slowly leading me to suspect that within Vivaldians nosotros might have quite a distinct Mail dichotomy.

1. M2 users who [presumably] have had an easy time adopting to the M3 paradigm & workflow.
2. Thunderbird/Evolution/Outlook non-M2 users, for whom in some/many cases the "old comfy" & "new uncomfy" paradigms are starkly discordant.

I further suspect that except for the subset of Vivaldians who are intimately familiar with both #1 and #ii [i practice mean intimate noesis, non merely a passing awareness] when the ii camps try a conversation it is inhibited past each not properly agreement the others' perspective & experience.

I'm in campsite#2, & am "desperate" to be able to import my decades of TB POP3 email then i tin can finally brainstorm trying to learn this new paradigm in order to appraise if this [at the moment very foreign] new workflow is going to be viable for me or not. The OPs question seems emblematic of the "divide" betwixt us.

@guigirl said in Mark 'Read' automatically?:

M2 users who [presumably] accept had an like shooting fish in a barrel time adopting to the M3 paradigm & workflow.

I used to use and like M2, though it's been several years now. I continued to employ it after opera went downwards. It was the first I knew of with virtual folders.

But M3's binder structure and mail handling is a horse of a different color. A mailer without a (mutual) Inbox is like an OS without a functioning desktop. It demands a radical change in mail treatment habits, and I fail to see any upside.

I agree that postal service should go to read when clicked on or at least be an option in the settings, I would like to see an option to order the listing in ascending or descending, I would like to run across a hotkey for sending mail to the trash, if whatever of these are possible currently are tin can be implemented via anther method such as filtering please permit me know, I am a uncomplicated mail user/reader but until the machine read is implemented I retrieve I'll get back to my one-time option for reading email Mailbird client.

@loudermp this topic is more thoroughly discussed in some other thread linked below. An upshot for Vivaldi Mail service to implement this is the fact that the Unread view is the cardinal place to get stuff done. Emails show in that location while they conduct the unread flag, then automatically marker them read would make them disappear while you look at the email. What'south so hard nearly pressing thousand (for mark as read), chiliad (mark as read and go to next unread)?

I became rather frustrated with people wanting this feature without providing whatsoever insights as to how it would actually work in M3 without major changes, and then I fabricated a proposition, which subsequently everyone ignored

https://forum.vivaldi.cyberspace/postal service/521715

Feel complimentary to add to that thread if yous have good new insights (and add your vote to the original mail service in the other thread, it has more than votes than this one hither)

To your other questions:

would similar to run into an option to gild the list in ascending or descending,

Click on the Date column header (if you bear witness the bulletin list with all columns) or this button in the simplified view

I would similar to run into a hotkey for sending mail to the trash,

Press the del key to delete a bulletin. Or shift+del to delete information technology without putting it to trash outset

//MODEDIT: fixed link

@wildente thank you for your response it was very informative, I will try Vivaldi mail again with the info you provided and will cheque out the link you provided, again thanks

@loudermp really I just constitute that the characteristic request you lot should vote for (the original and the one with the highest amounts of votes) is this one: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53355/machine-marker-electronic mail-as-read-option

Opera Mail Not Automatically Mark as Read

Source: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/54336/mark-read-automatically

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